Episode 18

₿HS018: The Mental Game - Guarding Your Mind & Thoughts

SHOW TOPIC:  Mental training, preparing for adversity, and avoiding fiat-mindset slippage

This episode covers how kids need to learn to deal with disappointment and adversity.  If you are homeschooling, it’s an easy trap to fall into to try to control everything.  Be intentional.  Mental training, e.g., mental resilience and anti-fragility, is an important topic often absent from standard curriculum.  Parents should be aware their beliefs from the fiat world are at risk of sipping into and being carried over to the Bitcoin world.  Pay attention to the paradigm you are passing to your kids.


  • Viktor Frankl’s “Man's Search for Meaning” describes, first hand, how and why some people give up while others are able to persevere through extreme adversity.
  • His story exemplifies why it is important to guard your mental state.
  • What inspired Tali in the Robert Kiyosaki’s interview
  • Kiyosaki described “internal economy” versus “external economy”
  • The rich are playing a different game.  They are playing by a different set of rules.
  • The moment you accept money, you accept being an employee.
  • What you truly believe is what is communicated to your kids
  • Clarifying the distinction between an entrepreneur mindset and a value-for-value (V4V) kids allowance
  • Parents should be aware their beliefs from the fiat world are at risk of sipping into / being carried over to the Bitcoin world
  • Kids need to learn how to deal with disappointment.  If you are homeschooling, it’s an easy trap to fall into to try to control everything.  
  • There are alternatives to sports to give kids an opportunity to be exposed to adversity.
  • Intentionality … 
  • Face your fear … example Rejection Proof
  • Mental training, e.g., mental resilience and anti-fragility, is an important topic often absent from standard curriculum.
  • Scott’s Ayn Rand “Virtue of Selfishness” tangent
  • We should be confident in our pursuits but not expect transition will be smooth.  We’re going to have obstacles in life.  You have to have the mental resilience to ride the ups and downs.



  • Tali's Twitter @OrangeHatterPod
  • Scott's Twitter @ScottLindberg93
  • Scott's nostr npub19jkuyl0wgrj8kccqzh2vnseeql9v98ptrx407ca9qjsrr4x5j9tsnxx0q6
  • Free Market Kids' Twitter @FreeMarketKids
  • Orange Pill App @FreeMarketKids
  • Free Market Kids' games including HODL UP https://www.freemarketkids.com/collections/games


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Tali Lindberg

Hey there, wonderful listeners! I'm Tali, and I'm so excited to welcome you to our podcast today. For two decades, I was knee-deep in the incredible journey of homeschooling my four amazing kids. It was a world of boundless creativity, filled with lesson plans, school projects, sports, and beautiful chaos. But when my children all graduated, a brand-new, unforeseen adventure awaited me - the captivating world of Bitcoin.

It took three years for Scott to bring me into Bitcoin. I hesitated at first, Bitcoin's intricacies seemed daunting, and my plate was already quite full. But he persisted, going so far as to create a fantastic bitcoin-mining board game called HODL UP to demystify it all. Before I knew it, I was down the Bitcoin rabbit hole. Just like my homeschooling journey, I took it one step at a time, learning and evolving as I ventured further.

Now, here we are today, and I couldn't be more thrilled to be part of the vibrant Bitcoin community. In an unexpected twist, my husband Scott and I realized that our homeschooling experiences can be a treasure trove of insights for Bitcoiners who, like us, want to take charge of their children's education. So, in addition to sharing our Bitcoin knowledge with Precoiners with HODL UP and the Orange Hatter podcast, we're here to offer tips and guidance for Bitcoin-homeschoolers. It's going to be an incredible journey, and I can't wait to share it with all of you. Enjoy the ride!
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Scott Lindberg

Scott Lindberg is a freedom-loving entrepreneur, author, and game designer. He is a proponent of finding freedom by taking self-custody of education, money and speech.

He and his wife, Tali, co-founded Free Market Kids. Their passion is to give the next generation the knowledge and tools to maximize their chances for freedom, success and happiness. Free Market Kids makes it easy and fun to introduce money concepts to kids through tabletop games, courses, lesson plans and trusted resources. They are best known for HODL UP™, a Bitcoin mining game.

Scott graduated from the United States Military Academy at West Point in 1993 with a Bachelor of Science in Systems Engineering. In 2001, he graduated Yale’s School of Management with a Master of Business Administration.