Episode 8

₿HS008: A Parenting Resource “The Learning Game”


Want to develop anti-fragile kids?  In this episode Tali and Scott deep dive the parenting book “The Learning Game” by Ana Lorena Fábrega.  The author is a former school teacher inspired to share positive alternatives to our institutionalized systems.  


  • Context of things wrong with current school systems
  • Prussian origins and the need for people who would comply as soldiers
  • Current system 
  • focuses on punishing failure and making it something to fear and avoid
  • little time for free play
  • Unintended incentives for test taking for administrators, teacher and students
  • Overprotection environment creates risk-adverse people
  • Disagreeing with the “myth of the learning style”
  • Developing a love of learning
  • Exposing kids to situation and problems they have to solve for themselves
  • Gamification is NOT point-ification
  • The precise video game formula of getting people to stay in the game
  • Scott and Tali’s different takeaways from video games
  • Failure is okay … if you don’t do well, you just try again
  • Montessori teaching method lets the experience give children feedback
  • Importance of having skin in the game – for parents and kids
  • Developing kids who are anti-fragile
  • Let kids experience moderate levels of stress
  • Working with shy kids
  • Learning social skills is critical growing up
  • Being okay with rejection
  • Dangers of the trend of people blaming others for microaggressions
  • Character development is critical and needs to be deliberate
  • Range of knowledge versus specific knowledge
  • Knowing how to solve problems is more important than memorizing facts
  • Thinking in bets 
  • People have to be able to deal with ambiguity to be successful today
  • Current system over-relies on standardized tests
  • Memory palace as a life skill
  • Memorize less but analyze more


  • “The Learning Game: Teaching Kids to Think for Themselves, Embrace Challenge, and Love Learning” by Ana Lorena Fábrega amazon
  • Montessori https://amshq.org
  • “Awaken the Genius in Your Child “by Devi Shakuntala amazon
  • “Rejection Proof: How I Beat Fear and Became Invincible Through 100 Days of Rejection” by amazon
  • “The Book of Virtues” by Dr. Bill Bennett amazon
  • Lee Corps https://leecorpsorg.wordpress.com/about/
  • “Thinking in Bets: Making Smarter Decisions When You Don't Have All the Facts” by Annie Duke amazon
  • “Moonwalking with Einstein: The Art and Science of Remembering Everything” by Joshua Foer amazon


  • Tali's Twitter @OrangeHatterPod
  • Scott's Twitter @ScottLindberg93
  • Scott's nostr npub19jkuyl0wgrj8kccqzh2vnseeql9v98ptrx407ca9qjsrr4x5j9tsnxx0q6
  • Free Market Kids' Twitter @FreeMarketKids
  • Orange Pill App @FreeMarketKids
  • Free Market Kids' games including HODL UP https://www.freemarketkids.com/collections/games


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Tali Lindberg

Hey there, wonderful listeners! I'm Tali, and I'm so excited to welcome you to our podcast today. For two decades, I was knee-deep in the incredible journey of homeschooling my four amazing kids. It was a world of boundless creativity, filled with lesson plans, school projects, sports, and beautiful chaos. But when my children all graduated, a brand-new, unforeseen adventure awaited me - the captivating world of Bitcoin.

It took three years for Scott to bring me into Bitcoin. I hesitated at first, Bitcoin's intricacies seemed daunting, and my plate was already quite full. But he persisted, going so far as to create a fantastic bitcoin-mining board game called HODL UP to demystify it all. Before I knew it, I was down the Bitcoin rabbit hole. Just like my homeschooling journey, I took it one step at a time, learning and evolving as I ventured further.

Now, here we are today, and I couldn't be more thrilled to be part of the vibrant Bitcoin community. In an unexpected twist, my husband Scott and I realized that our homeschooling experiences can be a treasure trove of insights for Bitcoiners who, like us, want to take charge of their children's education. So, in addition to sharing our Bitcoin knowledge with Precoiners with HODL UP and the Orange Hatter podcast, we're here to offer tips and guidance for Bitcoin-homeschoolers. It's going to be an incredible journey, and I can't wait to share it with all of you. Enjoy the ride!
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Scott Lindberg

Scott Lindberg is a freedom-loving entrepreneur, author, and game designer. He is a proponent of finding freedom by taking self-custody of education, money and speech.

He and his wife, Tali, co-founded Free Market Kids. Their passion is to give the next generation the knowledge and tools to maximize their chances for freedom, success and happiness. Free Market Kids makes it easy and fun to introduce money concepts to kids through tabletop games, courses, lesson plans and trusted resources. They are best known for HODL UP™, a Bitcoin mining game.

Scott graduated from the United States Military Academy at West Point in 1993 with a Bachelor of Science in Systems Engineering. In 2001, he graduated Yale’s School of Management with a Master of Business Administration.