Episode 4

₿HS004: Overcoming the Fear of Overwhelm

SHOW TOPIC:

Homeschooling is a commitment.  You are investing your precious time and attention for the long-term success and happiness of your children.  In this conversation, Tali and Scott deep dive the common fear of being overwhelmed.

IN THIS EPISODE, YOU'LL LEARN:

  • A common question from those considering homeschooling is how to not lose yourself
  • Homeschooling is not as hard as you might think
  • It’s okay if spouses don’t agree on all aspects (feature not a bug)
  • You have a lot of options, each with varying impacts on time for yourself
  • Just start … then adjust.  It’s a process you continually tweak.
  • You don’t need to have plan for entire K-12 experience.  Planning out a month or two in advance is fine.
  • Part-time private schools are one option
  • Co-ops offer additional benefit, the opportunity to share your passions
  • Extended family plans
  • Homeschooling play groups and field trips
  • Every homeschooling mom, no matter how devoted needs time to herself to recoup and regenerate
  • There are so many resources:  Mom’s groups, churches, online curriculum, etc.
  • Finding homeschooling groups and play groups in your area
  • Always do a tour before committing to a program
  • Consider attending homeschooling conventions
  • Homeschoolers are very much like Bitcoiners.  They're very, very friendly, open, and more than happy to share experience.
  • Stay flexible and know that it's going to be okay. Take one step at a time.

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Transcript
Speaker:

Well welcome everybody.

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This is exciting.

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We were talking today in Nashville.

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We're visiting Bitcoin park.

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And it's really nice.

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It's a beautiful fall time of the year.

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And one of the things that's

interesting at Bitcoin park is.

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We're seeing people come with

their kids, really young kids.

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Um, infants and it's just inspiring.

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And it reminds us of what

we're doing with this podcast.

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. If you're new, the show husband

and wife team we're Bitcoiners.

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We spent 20 years

homeschooling our four kids.

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And the purpose of this, this podcast is

to share our stories or lessons learned

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and to share any resources we can.

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On self casting education.

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And today we're going to deep dive.

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Something that was a question or

maybe really, really a comment that

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was made to Talia at a recent event.

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So Tali, why don't you tell them?

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Yeah.

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I was talking to a young mom and

she knew that we were homeschoolers

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and she approached us and said, , I

would love to homeschool, but I'm

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afraid that if I choose to do that,

I'm going to lose myself completely.

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They get it.

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It.

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I mean, homeschooling is a.

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Huge undertaking.

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If you're choosing to do a full time.

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I think there is a

spectrum of homeschooling.

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You can do it even if your kids

are going to public school, but

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she was specifically referencing.

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If she were to dive in full time.

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Homeschooling her three kids.

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So today we want to just talk a little

bit about our thoughts on that question.

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A very valid question.

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And.

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Based on not only our personal

experience, but things that we have

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observed over the last two decades.

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We'll share with you and hope

that you will find it helpful.

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All right.

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Well, so.

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Tell us about this

conversation you had then.

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How did the, how did you answer her?

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And we would start there.

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Well, I, I acknowledged her

concern because it is really

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easy when you start as mothers.

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You start to put your

children's needs and wants and.

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Um, Basically, well, just

needs a ones above your own.

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And if you, on top of being a young

mom, And chasing after your kids and

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trying to take care of the house and.

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Grocery shop and make the healthiest

food choices that you can.

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Oh, that's seven.

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And on top of that, having to think

about schooling, your kids, it

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does sound very, very overwhelming.

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And truthfully it is going to

take a lot of mental energy.

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But it does.

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It's not necessarily as hard as you

think it might be because today there

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are so many resources out there.

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Making homeschooling, you have very, very

flexible, very, um, What's it called?

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Not the opposite of one size fits all.

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Personal, it can be.

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It can be very, very

approached, personalized.

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You can, you can tailor, you

can tailor your homeschooling

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according to your resources in time.

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And money and energy and still do a

fabulous job, uh, far superior to.

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What a public school can do.

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Yeah.

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So in my mind, , I see

kind of three steps.

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The first step that I recall is you.

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You need to, you need to have

alignment with your partner.

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On what you're trying to do.

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So you need to.

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At least have a conversation

about what it is, what are those.

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Homeschooling is proof of work.

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You're going to invest your energy.

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That's what you're, you're

making a decision to do.

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But you need to have that

and it's okay to disagree.

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Like don't, I don't think.

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That has to be 100%.

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I think it's actually

a feature, not a bug.

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Uh, for parents too, to work things out.

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And the second thing is.

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Take a, uh, Take a look at what

your options are, because as you

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just said, it's very personal.

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You can do anything from look, we're going

to put them in the public school system.

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We're just going to teach them at

night and on weekends with our,

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with extra stuff, it could be.

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Uh, private school.

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It could be one of these schools

that does does one or two days of.

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A week.

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It could be dropping them

off at a family member.

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You have a lot of options.

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Two.

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To decide.

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How much time you need for yourself.

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So if this person that came to you

is worried about losing herself.

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And being overwhelmed.

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To me, there's this whole second step

of like, you have this menu of options.

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And then the third step is.

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You start, you, you commit to it.

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You start it.

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And then, you know, you can adjust.

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This is not, Hey, I made a decision

and we have to stay this way forever.

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You go on.

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And you learn.

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So the first thing is

you, you get aligned.

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Second thing is you.

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You look at your options.

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And the third thing is you.

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You test them out and, and then

if you say, I want to go deeper on

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this, I want to spend more time.

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Okay.

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Fine.

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You.

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Go more to you.

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Get you get more involved.

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If you say I am feeling overwhelmed.

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I do feel like I'm losing myself.

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You say.

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Let me look at those options.

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That gives me more time.

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You have.

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You have a lot of.

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Opportunity.

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To adjust you don't

you're not locked into it.

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Forever.

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You know, that's, that's kind of

like, that's what I see is the

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kind of from a process standpoint.

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Of what it looks like.

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Well, a lot of homeschooling

families would do this.

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So they start praying.

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If you're a praying kind of person,

they start praying about the school.

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Year over the summer and they make

a decision for that school year.

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And they summer, they try it for

a year and then they always then.

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Pray about the following year.

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So they take it really

one school year at a time.

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It is, it seems so

overwhelming to think K to 12.

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Oh my God.

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I gotta have, I gotta have

this whole long-term plan.

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You don't, you're really planning

about nine months at a time.

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So for example, one year.

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Uh, for our youngest, he was

eight years old at the time.

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And we up until then had been primarily

doing all of the subjects ourselves.

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And I decided if for.

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For, um, just for the

sake of making friends.

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There are his own age.

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Cause he tended to be he's our youngest.

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He's going to, to.

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To be exposed to older kids

through his siblings activity.

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So for his own sake, I wanted to

put him in a situation where he

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was exposed to other homeschoolers.

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He's all age.

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And I was already running around.

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All the all different places

because of the older siblings.

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And I just felt like I wanted to

give him something that was his own.

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And with kids his own age,

Within the social parameter of

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other homeschooling families.

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So I put him in a, what I will call it

a private, a part-time private school.

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So there's two days a week.

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It covered all the subjects.

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It was Tuesday, Thursday,

and then Monday was a Friday.

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He had homework to do, and I

just supervised his homework.

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But Tuesday, Thursday, it

was a drop off situation.

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Right.

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So he was there for, uh, I think

he, we dropped him off at nine

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and we picked him up at three.

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So about six hours included laundry

size and all the different subjects.

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I recovered.

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So he was there for one year and

every day I, when I picked him up,

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we will go over his day as a whole.

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What did you learn?

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Who did you hang out with?

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How was it?

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What was it like with your

friends on the playground?

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What was your teacher like?

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And then of course, I was also

just, uh, overseeing his projects

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and his homework and things.

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And towards the end of the year, actually,

like, it wasn't even towards the end of

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the year, it was halfway through the year

and the school was already preparing to

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do registration for the following year.

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I had to sit down with

my then eight year old.

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Uh, sun and Isaiah, what do you

think, is this something that

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you would like to continue with?

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Are you making.

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Friends.

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And do you feel good there?

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And he said, I don't like it there because

you've put me in a room full of babies.

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And I said, they're not babies.

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They're your age.

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And some of them are older, but

he's so used to being exposed to.

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His oldest siblings and his

older siblings, friends.

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That he felt uncomfortable

there and together we made the

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decision to not continue, but he

had that the nine months there.

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So it's a, it's a process that

you can continue to tweak as you,

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your life circumstances, change.

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And.

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In that case, if he was my oldest, right.

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If I yell, if he had younger

siblings and he was my oldest.

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I could have done the same thing.

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I could have dropped him off Tuesday,

Thursday, and then just knew that

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all the subjects were covered and

then just had to help him with

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homework Monday, Wednesday, Friday.

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And that would give me free time

to take care of the younger kids.

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So this situation could be reversed

in that case, it would work for.

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The family, according to what their need.

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Gotcha.

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So two things come to mind.

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One is that.

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There's other things we can go down and.

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The list of options to choose and what

we either witnessed, or you, you tried.

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And then the other thing is, are we.

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We are answering the question of

what this person asked you in that.

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So did that help you?

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Or would that help the

person who's worried about?

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Being overwhelmed and not, or

didn't want to lose themselves.

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Yes.

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In this case for that particular

family who was asking me this question.

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Her kids were, um, I think

kindergarten and younger.

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And she was pregnant

in the first semester.

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Uh, first trimester.

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So in her case, if she wanted to

go that route, She had a newborn,

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assuming, uh, when, when she

decides you there's the baby's born.

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She has a newborn and then she

has a five-year-old I think it

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might've been a three-year-old.

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Five-year-old three-year-old and a

newborn, then she could have dropped off.

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The failure and the three-year-old

every Tuesday, Thursday, and new that

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a Monday, Wednesday, Friday, she didn't

have to worry about coming up with

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curriculum or coming up with material.

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All she had to do was to supervise

and the rest of the time they can

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just enjoy today and just know

the schooling is taken care of.

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Okay.

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So in that case was she

necessarily lose herself.

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I would say no, as long as the tuition

is something that you can manage.

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And you're okay with them going

into a traditional classrooms

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situation because that's, you

always make a pros and cons list.

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Right?

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So in the case of the example that

I'm giving, which is a part-time.

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Private school situation where

you, you drop off part of the week.

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They are sitting in a traditional

classroom and they, it is a lecture

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lecture based teaching style.

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They, it is texts textbook based.

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So if you don't mind that, then

this is a really great option.

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Okay.

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Cool.

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All right.

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So let's what we'll do is we'll just go

through the list of different options.

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And then we'll just try to come back

to the original question and see

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where we're at rates on the scale.

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So the next one.

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Co-ops and maybe explain

what, what co-ops are.

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And then, and then we tie it

back to the same question of how

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does it help or not help with.

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Your time to yourself

to not lose yourself.

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Yeah, so you can join a homeschool at

co-op and a co-op usually is once a week

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and it's PA it's families coming together.

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So it's not, definitely

not a drop off situation.

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Families come together, parents either.

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Volunteer, uh, as just admin people or

they've volunteered to teach, or they

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volunteer to watch the younger kids who

are not old enough to go into a classroom.

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Then the parents who teach,

they teach based on their own

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interests and backgrounds.

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So you're not going to necessarily

get the academic exposure there

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because you don't from one.

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Year to another.

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You're not sure what

classes would be available.

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Right.

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It would be like one pair and

maybe really loves knitting.

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So she provides a knitting class.

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One parent maybe is really great at math.

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And so he does a math games class.

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One parent may be really

good at cooking or gardening.

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So they do a gardening class.

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So it's more like electives, mostly what

I have seen in homeschooling co-ops.

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The classes are offered by the parents

are mostly more like electives.

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So you're still going to have to teach the

core math and English at home yourself.

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Uh, less there's a parent in the co-op

specifically offering something for that.

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But the benefit of it is the

whole family is together.

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When you have, when

lunchtime comes around.

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All the families are sitting together.

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The kids are playing.

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It's a very family oriented thing, but you

don't get free time in terms of walking

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away, but you do get the friendship

with other homeschooling moms and dads.

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Well, I, I would say the other thing

in context of not losing yourself,

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what you do get is you could

volunteer to teach something you like.

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So if your hobby is ceramics or

painting or whatever your hobby is.

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You volunteered to teach your subject.

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And so now instead of losing.

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You time.

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On something that is part of who you are.

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You actually get to share

that with other other people.

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And while you're doing that, it's sort

of like specialization in a free market.

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You're going to specialize in your area.

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You're really good at.

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Uh, just take a painting.

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If that was your hobby.

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Or maybe it's photography or programming.

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Maybe you can get into

robotics with your kids.

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It doesn't matter.

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Whatever your subject is

that you like to teach about?

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Do you like to spend time on you?

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Go spend time.

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It could be sports too.

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The kids could go play.

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You really like sports.

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So you teach your kids,

flag football or something.

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Kickball the little square game

with the bonk downs, whatever it is.

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And it gives you a little bit of time

to focus on what you like while somebody

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else is going deep on something they like.

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So.

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Maybe you speak Chinese

and you can speak Chinese.

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So that persons over teaching a language

and someone else is doing chemistry.

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So to me, Co-ops.

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You're still spending time, but I

think the benefit on the question

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of how not to lose yourself is.

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You, you also get this, this

opportunity to be who you are and yeah.

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And you can share your passion, which

is, uh, which is a beautiful thing

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in and of itself because yeah, we're

all looking for people who share.

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Our hobby and passion and common interest.

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And you get to teach that

to the younger generation.

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And I think that can be

NSL, very fulfilling.

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And another pro about doing the

homeschooling co-op is your kids are

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also learning from other people who

are passionate about this subject.

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Versus going to a school, maybe

being taught by a teacher who is

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forced to teach something that

they literally have no interest in.

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All right, let's go to the next one.

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The list.

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And this one you may not be able

to do all the time, depending on.

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If you have extended family nearby.

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So we may have to use an example

of what else you've witnessed,

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but the next one on the list is.

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Time with family.

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So for example, you, every

whatever day is the day that

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someone's going to be with grandma.

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That kind of thing.

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I don't think we'll call it this.

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That like an extended family.

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Plan.

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That's the next, that's the next one?

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Yeah, so.

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I knew a family where the grandparents

were really active in the children's

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lives and they would have grandma days.

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And, um, the Gramma day, literally

the mom would drop off the kids, our

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grandma's house, and then she'll have

the day to herself, whether she wanted

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to pursue something that she's interested

in, or just have a quiet house to do

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what she needs to do around the house.

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So that's another way if you wanted

to just school full time yourself,

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but just have one day free to take

care of other things, to still have

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your own space, your own mental space.

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That would really work.

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If you don't have.

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Parents are nearby, or if you don't

have that kind of relationship.

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Or opportunity then perhaps you can, um,

partner with another homeschooling family

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because everybody really needs that.

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Every homeschooling mom, no

matter how devoted needs time.

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To herself to recoup and regenerate.

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We recharge.

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And so if you join a homeschooling

co-op of any kind, or if you join.

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Um, they're always homeschooling

playgroups, especially

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if your kids are young.

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Homeschooling playgroups is a

very, very big thing and they take

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a lots of field trips together.

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You'll get to know other families

and hopefully you make a couple

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close friends and then you can

partner up and share time off.

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You know, and, and that could really,

that can really alleviate that feeling of

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heavy burden when you're homeschooling.

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And you're you feel like you

have to be on all the time.

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Right.

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But playgroups are very, very big thing.

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Moms groups, you can find them everywhere

if you're a part of a church, for sure.

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They have connections to the moms groups.

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There's.

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If you even just Google mom group

in your area, um, they're not

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necessarily necessarily going to

also be homeschooling moms, but.

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. You never know what people are able to.

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Work together to create.

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Okay.

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Then I did.

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Just two more quick and

then we can get into the.

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Where do you start to find

out for your own area?

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Um, on one end of the spectrum.

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And the furthest end might be,

uh, you max out how much time

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somebody else is doing it.

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Like some places you can go.

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And there you're called

homeschoolers, but.

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Like they're basically gone.

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Most of them.

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Yeah.

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Time let's cover that one.

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First.

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I was going to call it a

hundred percent private, but

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that's not really what that is.

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Let's what do you call the most extreme?

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Keys.

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Where.

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You're still homeschooling, but you're

spending the least amount of time.

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Actually doing the schooling.

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Well, you.

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So that's a little bit different from

physical separation, like your ability

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to drop them off and not be worried about

them in that other people are responsible

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for your child during that time.

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And you're completely freed.

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Freed up to do other things,

but if you're, if you're not

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talking about physical separation,

you're just talking about.

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Delegating the task of teaching.

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You can buy these

curriculums either online.

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Where they say, it's almost like

what they did during coven, which is

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all the, all the classes are online.

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You sign them up and they

sign into a life teacher.

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They get taught and they

do their homework and they.

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They get feedback from the teacher.

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They take tests where the

teacher and you're literally just

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providing space in a computer.

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Right.

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And maybe a little bit of supervision.

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Most of the time the kids would be home.

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But you are not responsible for the

teaching of a, you just choose the

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classes that you want them to to learn.

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That's the most extreme, like hands off

thing where you're just not part of that.

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All.

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So my point in bringing that up is that.

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There are some parents who

say they are homeschoolers.

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If you asked them that

those other homeschoolers.

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But they have tried to

outsource to the max.

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Yeah, they don't teach at all.

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Right.

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Yeah.

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Then.

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Then you have the other side

of spectrum, which is the last

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one I wanted to talk about.

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And that was where you just, this

is your you've decided this is

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your passion and your, you actually

want it to be a hundred percent.

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Right.

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So maybe we talk about.

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The other end of the spectrum.

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You have people who.

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Enjoy it so much.

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They, they want to go deep on

everything and be involved with

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literally teaching everything.

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So if they're teaching everything, how

do they still keep a part of themselves?

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Well, I think it's almost, it

almost is it answers itself.

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You've already decided that what

makes you happy is the teaching.

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So you are doing what you like.

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And that sense, right?

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Yeah.

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Um, I just bring it up as it, on

the spectrum of options available.

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That some people will go to the,

go to the other side of this.

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And they enjoy it.

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Like they actually choose to

make the, they say I have a

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choice that I want to make.

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I want to, I want to take on

that level of responsibility.

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Okay.

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So if you.

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The method that I think that comes to mind

is Charlotte Mason, which is a very, very

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hands-on you're involved in everything.

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You prepare the curriculum.

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You gathered the books.

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You do everything.

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And in those cases for.

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I mean, that's basically

what I did in the beginning.

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And it is very overwhelming because

while you're teaching the kids, you are

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thinking about what to cook for dinner.

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And while you're eating dinner, you

thinking about what lesson plan to

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prepare for the next day kind of thing.

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So it is, it can be very overwhelming

and those cases, I will just say on the

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weekend, Um, just make sure that your

partner or your friends or your family

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can give you a couple of ours off just to.

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Have yourself a day.

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Just to recharge any way that you want.

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If that means you go to the gym.

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If he goes in the sauna, if you.

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They'll take a walk outside though.

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In those cases, I think you just need

to have very deliberate agreements

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and it doesn't even have to be

some large chunk of time either.

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It can just be a short,

like, okay, for the next 45

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minutes, I'm taking a walk and.

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I'm by myself and it's okay for the

kids to watch blue, not blues clues.

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So you can't watch that now.

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It's a weird, it's like woke now.

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Um, to watch something educational

while you with dad or grandma,

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and then you go off for a walk

and I think that's okay too.

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Yeah.

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All right.

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So those are five general buckets.

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You can.

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Make up your own and mix mix any way.

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Let's let's I think the next

question that would be on my mind.

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So I'm imagining this, this person.

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I didn't talk to her, but.

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She's she wants to, if she asked

you, how do I not lose myself?

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I think this might be overwhelming.

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You said here's here's here are these

different examples of buckets of options.

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We just went through.

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And the next question

would be well in my area.

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How do I start?

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Like we're so let's maybe let's cover.

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Two or three recommendations on.

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If you're, if you're that person.

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And you now know, okay, I've got these

options, but how do I figure out what

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program is actually available near me?

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The best place to go for a homeschooler

is going to be the Facebook.

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So go into Facebook type in

homeschool and type in your city name.

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If you are not in a big city, then you

might have to use Google and, and do a

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dig a little deeper, but honestly, any

homeschooling group that that's active.

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Close to your area, even if

it's not right in your area.

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There will be people there

who can direct you, different

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places, different resources.

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If you go in there and ask.

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Just say, can, will you please

direct me to a homeschool?

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Co-op understand that that is going to

be that sort of the elective classes

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that you can go and network with.

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Networking connect with other

homeschooling families as units.

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If you ask about a

drop-off kind of program.

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I'm not sure there's a specific term

for, I've heard it all different ways,

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but you might just, it might just

be some kind of homeschool academy

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or homeschool Christian academy or.

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Then you're going to have to ask.

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Specifically in your area, but there

they will be drop-off situations.

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And I personally call it part-time

private school, but homeschoolers might

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be offended if you set that, but just

say like some kind of drop off program.

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And they should be able to direct you.

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To what's available in your area.

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Right?

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But the way.

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I'll in my mind.

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What I hear is you're saying.

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Go talk to them in person though.

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Right?

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Go out.

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You know, you find them on

Facebook, but go talk to them.

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Right and find out what they are

before you just, you're not gonna

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just like sign up for something.

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No, you always do a tour first.

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Always, no matter what you do, you can,

the co-ops will give you yours for.

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The, um, something like

classical conversation, which is.

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Combination co-op N private school.

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Um, part-time private school.

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Like they would, there's always gonna be

somebody who's willing to give you a tour.

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And you can observe first before making

a decision, but if your kids are very

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young star with just a playgroup,

That's the best place to go and

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make connections and ask questions.

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Okay.

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So then you have.

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You mentioned Facebook.

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So you're finding them online.

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Go and talk to them.

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You also have.

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You mentioned churches.

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So.

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There are a lot of churches where.

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They're there.

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There's a big homeschooling

community within.

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Whatever.

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Denomination that is.

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It's very popular in churches.

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Yeah.

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So that's the second one.

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I guess you'd go to meetups.

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You can go to a Bitcoin meetup and

it's probably less likely you're going

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to find someone who's already doing.

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Um, And you're the only

other, other options.

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The other thing I thought of that I did

not know about when our kids were young.

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Was there are actually conventions.

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Oh, yeah.

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Yes.

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Yes, absolutely homeschool conventions.

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There are many, many, many of them.

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It starts, they start in the late spring

and go all the way into early fall.

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And they differ by.

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Um, the approaches.

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So maybe we'll do an episode on just the

different approaches of homeschooling.

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So they can take different.

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Can't understand the difference

because you have the Charlotte Mason,

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people who do their conventions,

you have the Costco conversation.

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People will do the conventions.

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You have, um, Christian

homeschool conventions.

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And I know that there are

secular homeschool conventions.

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A lot of conventions, a lot of

them that a lot of conventions.

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Yeah.

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And also, I just want to say.

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Homeschoolers are very

much like Bitcoiners.

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They're very, very friendly

and they are, everybody's more

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than happy to share experience.

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And, um, they're very open.

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They're open people.

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So.

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Gotcha.

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Okay.

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So.

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Again, this is all inspired by

a question that was, and this

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question's come up in different ways.

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The same type of questions come up

to you multiple times is how do you.

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Not be overwhelmed.

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How do you keep yourself?

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I think one of the,

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one of the more extreme version

of that question or statement is,

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oh, I can't possibly homeschool.

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I'm going to kill my children.

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And.

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Okay.

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Yeah.

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That you don't want to get

to, you don't get that far.

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Um, alone, but I mean, kids are,

that's part of, to me, the joy of

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parenting is you're, you're going to

learn a lot about yourself because

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you're, you're going to be in this.

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You're going to be.

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Uh, pushed in ways you didn't

know you could be, be pushed,

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but I, I think that's a good.

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A good thing.

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And again, from my point of view,

We're just saying, listen, where

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we homeschooled for 20 years.

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We understand the Bitcoin point of view.

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Here are some of the stories and

ideas to help and resources to help.

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And other people.

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So I think we've.

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Hopefully we've covered that.

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And then I guess the, I would

leave it as we're pretty open.

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If, if somebody.

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Doesn't feel comfortable or still is

it still has something that they're

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questioning on that reach out to us?

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If we didn't answer that question?

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Well, enough.

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Reach out to Tali or myself

on Twitter or our email or the

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website, whatever, whatever way

you're comfortable reaching out.

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And we're happy to help try to.

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Try to get you through the process

of thinking through or how to reach

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out and see what the options are.

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So that's, that's all I had on

the list for days or anything at

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any other final thoughts that you

had Tali for before we wrap up?

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I just want to say that it is,

is, seems really overwhelming, but

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it is very doable because it is.

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Like I mentioned earlier.

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It's not something where

it's such a giant project.

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You have to plan many years ahead.

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You can plan a few months at a time.

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And you can continue to

adjust because you don't know.

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What your true capacity is

for these kinds of challenges.

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Uh, in homeschooling until

you're in the thick of it.

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And then maybe you realize that

you can actually tolerate a lot

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more than you realized, or you

can tell me less, but either way.

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Once you find out where your limit is,

you start to look for solutions like

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working with your family and friends for

time off or looking for these part-time

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private school situation where you.

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Get a few days off because

that's why you need.

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And, you know, don't feel guilty.

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It's completely fine.

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Homeschooling is going to be.

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A pause.

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Kind of, yeah, it's constant

adjustment and kind of things.

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So don't feel bad either

way, stay flexible and know

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that it's going to be okay.

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One step in front of the other.

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Yeah.

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That's really good advice.

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You're going to be okay.

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Your kids are going to be okay.

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And we didn't, at least I didn't

have the confidence to start.

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We just needed to get moving.

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And then later on, after you've

looked back, you'd be like, oh

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yeah, I'm capable of doing that.

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I can do that.

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I need you.

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You realize you actually, you

already have what you need to do

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this, but you don't start with that.

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:

You, you feel overwhelmed maybe.

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But, um, But yeah, you, you,

you're going to be fine.

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I think that's great advice.

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:

All right, everybody.

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Well, we'll we, uh, we're doing

this to try to help folks.

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If people have questions you want us to,

to address, let us know what they are.

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And we'll catch you next week.

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Bye have a good week.

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Hey there, wonderful listeners! I'm Tali, and I'm so excited to welcome you to our podcast today. For two decades, I was knee-deep in the incredible journey of homeschooling my four amazing kids. It was a world of boundless creativity, filled with lesson plans, school projects, sports, and beautiful chaos. But when my children all graduated, a brand-new, unforeseen adventure awaited me - the captivating world of Bitcoin.

It took three years for Scott to bring me into Bitcoin. I hesitated at first, Bitcoin's intricacies seemed daunting, and my plate was already quite full. But he persisted, going so far as to create a fantastic bitcoin-mining board game called HODL UP to demystify it all. Before I knew it, I was down the Bitcoin rabbit hole. Just like my homeschooling journey, I took it one step at a time, learning and evolving as I ventured further.

Now, here we are today, and I couldn't be more thrilled to be part of the vibrant Bitcoin community. In an unexpected twist, my husband Scott and I realized that our homeschooling experiences can be a treasure trove of insights for Bitcoiners who, like us, want to take charge of their children's education. So, in addition to sharing our Bitcoin knowledge with Precoiners with HODL UP and the Orange Hatter podcast, we're here to offer tips and guidance for Bitcoin-homeschoolers. It's going to be an incredible journey, and I can't wait to share it with all of you. Enjoy the ride!
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Scott Lindberg is a freedom-loving entrepreneur, author, and game designer. He is a proponent of finding freedom by taking self-custody of education, money and speech.

He and his wife, Tali, co-founded Free Market Kids. Their passion is to give the next generation the knowledge and tools to maximize their chances for freedom, success and happiness. Free Market Kids makes it easy and fun to introduce money concepts to kids through tabletop games, courses, lesson plans and trusted resources. They are best known for HODL UP™, a Bitcoin mining game.

Scott graduated from the United States Military Academy at West Point in 1993 with a Bachelor of Science in Systems Engineering. In 2001, he graduated Yale’s School of Management with a Master of Business Administration.